New Sweden was therefore an interjection in New Netherland and not a complement to New Netherland. The Swedes and Germans hold the admistrative posts and Dutch were the fur traders but the remainders were Finns.

The modern New Sweden map is neither a historical geographical map nor a population density map. who sold to the Dutch Manhattan was in origin a white man.

links? He was an aristocrat belonging to a family that originally came from Germany, but even so, he did not call himself Klaus; the family had been Swedish-speaking for generations. Furthermore, if the false caption were to be changed as proposed by Zello, i.e., purporting to show New Sweden's relative population position to New Netherland, why doesn't he show its relative population position to Virgina? I have toned down the nationalistic Finnish claims in the article, not because I am on a quest to belittle Finland or Finns but because the claims about, say, Måns Kling are unsubstantiated. It is of recent creation which (if at all, because of its interpretive purpose) belongs to an entry on Wikipedia about New Sweden (definitely not on the New Netherland page) which was established by various disenfranchised and disgruntled members of the Dutch West India Company (including Willem Usselincxs, Samuel Blommaert and Peter Minuit) under the auspices of the Swedish king. May became New Netherland’s first director in 1624. It has therefore no comtemporary meaning unless you produce an engraved map of New Sweden engraved in that specific year 1650. It was centered at Fort Christina, now in Wilmington, Delaware, and included parts of the present-day states of Delaware, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania.

The border was established 12 miles north of New Castle, and the northern limit of Pennsylvania was set at On August 24, 1682, the Duke of York transferred the western Delaware River region to William Penn, including Delaware, thus transferring Deale County and St. Jones County from New York to Delaware.

Please, be respectful. Find local businesses, view maps and get driving directions in Google Maps. The first settlement at Wicaco began with a Swedish log blockhouse located on The next step in the assimilation of New Sweden into New York was the extension of the Duke's laws into the region on September 22, 1676.On March 4, 1681, what had been the colony of New Sweden was formally partitioned into the colonies of Delaware and Pennsylvania. Finland no longer belonged to Sweden, and the Finns who had settled in Sweden proper in the 16th century had almost all been assimilated at that stage.

New Sweden was not an adjoining complement to New Netherland as your modern interpretive map seems to want to tell with its opposite, disparate coloring. To continue the use of this map as a population distribution map by solely changing its caption to reflect that new thought, is a covert attempt at continuing the use of the map as a Trojan Horse. BKonrad/Zello/BigAdamsky: Kasteholma and Sauna. The modern map above has no geographical or historical signifance. New Netherland’s southern border started at Cape Hinlopen, just south of the Delaware Bay and was so surveyed and mapped by Cornelis Jacobsz May in 1613 and 1614. The Swedish South Company was founded in 1626 w If you continue to post that map, it will be transferred to the New Sweden site. One of my ancestors was listed as arriving in America, at New Sweden, in 1620.

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Hence, the map is wrong as a reflection of historical fact.

Clas (or Klas) Fleming never used the Finnish (and German) spelling "Klaus" for his name. As a population map the map is not credible as New Sweden had just about 200 colonists in 1648. Even then, the map belongs on the New Sweden site only and not on the New Netherland site. Wikipedia:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of the AmericasTemplate:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of the AmericasNew Sweden versus Virginia, New England, New NetherlandNew Sweden versus Virginia, New England, New Netherland I would like to see contemporary census statistics that would then justify the shading of this map relative to the purple shading which makes, after all, no sense at all. DeKoning If you read the historical facts carefully, then you know that your modern New Sweden map's caption is erroneous because of, what you say, "both areas are shown in relation to each other". One needs to find out who drew it as it was drawn to mislead the unsuspecting Wikipedia reader.

I.e., Geographically, West Berlin was not adjacent to East Germany. I hope that Wikipedia editor Laura Scudder ☎ will be able to do something about that. The New Sweden map you are insisting on publishing on the New Netherland site should be only on the New Sweden site as that is the site that pertains to your argument which you are trying to support by your modern deception. Or objecting to a map of Europe that failed to show Poland (though Poland ceased to exist for nearly 150 yrs). At least two Finnish settlements are missing from the list. New Sweden, ME Directions {{::location.tagLine.value.text}} Or perhaps better...showing a map of Nigeria and coloring Biafra a different color (to show the relative position of the two states). If you want to make the public believe your interpretation or would like to debate this further, you ought to do that on the Wikipedia New Sweden site. On the Nigeria/Biafra issue...it is clear that for a period of time there *were* two states, whether or not anyone else recognized them...and regardless of whether Nigeria quickly put down the rebellion and reconquered Biafra. Andorra, Luxemburg, Monaco, Estonia, even New Zealand etc. Sauna was located in the place which become later Philadelphia. Has this been discounted, or is it perhaps a fiction made up by Oxenstierna to establish a prior Swedish claim? New Sweden was not based on (1) first discovery, (2) original exploration, surveying and mapping; and (3) first settlement. I should have put my note about a 1620 arrival in this section.

You may need to study history a bit more to understand that one area was situated temporarily contained in another one rather than being (wrongly colored) separate geo-political sections.



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